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Kryptos - Beyond K4 
p.s. I made that one myself. It’s hanging in our window right now.
OQRSIKJ
O B K R U O X
O G H U L B S O L I F B B
W F L R V Q Q P R N G K S
S O T W T Q S J Q S S E K
Z Z W A T J K L U D I A W
I N F B n Y P V T T M Z F
P K W G D K Z X T J C D I
G K U H U A U E K C A R
JEPETES
D Y R A D O H
D A I R S B V D E J M W B
G L E Y Y C Q N S G H S U
S U C L O K U J D E K F S
H Z G F X L S S U K Q R X
U B F X x V T Y N T B T S
T S F G K O N Z D O C K Q
A R R P U W K O R I V R
Q L X V S Q B
Q V F J Y W J Q K G A N W
A R K Z L O C G J Y E U L
U I N S Y I L O T U I C U
D H A V G H U Y D Q T J U
D T R M b E R L I N Y H U
R U B Y Q I B V Z R X Q T
V X J Z D L D Q X T M J
That’s awesome! What does it mean?
Just some old notes from years ago that did not pass censorship so I posted it here instead.
The D-DAY (top left) is obvious.
Less obvious is the YALU KORIV e R (top left, right bottom).
What makes this interesting is the A RADO in the top left.
The Arado Ar 234 was the world’s first operational jet-powered bomber, built by the German Arado company in the closing stages of World War II. Produced in very limited numbers, it was used almost entirely in the reconnaissance role, but in its few uses as a bomber it proved to be nearly impossible to intercept. It was the last Luftwaffe aircraft to fly over England during the war, in April 1945
The Ar 234 was commonly known as Blitz (“lightning”)
August 2nd 1944, 1632 hours.
Eric Sommer photographs the artificial harbor at Arromanches from his Arado 234 at an altitude of 11,000 meters.
Link to picture : http://aerostories.free.fr/events/juvin/arrom.JPG
Another intereresting thing bottom left corner
SHUT STAR
Shot Star maybe. As in the Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star?
One of the prototypes of this plane was the : XP-80A 44-83021 Gray Ghost
It is very hard to get this kind of info to you people.
Seems some people don’t like this info to be shared.
Here is another one that looks suspicious
O B K R U
O X
O G H U L B S
O L I F B B W F L R V Q Q P R N G K S S
O T W T Q S J Q S S E K
Z Z W A T J K L U D I A W I N F B n Y P V T T
M Z F P K W G D K Z X T J C D I G K U H U A U E K C A R
PAK
Y R K X H
O U
X G E H L O Z
O H B F O R W C D R N G Q K Q N D N S P
X T Q W Q P C Q P Z E W
M Z Q K T G N L M P I T J I J O B j U P N W T
I M F K N W D P K V L T G Y D F S K M A U T H E W Y A X
theme here is zero (5 bit) memory in the left vertical and MASS THE WAXY in the right bottom “corner”
best we can hope for is that somebody will say aha and makes a connection to something.
No connections for me yet
Always hard to make connections is it not?
D Y R A D U H
D A I R S B V D E J M W B
G L E Y Y C Q N S G H S O
S O C L U K O J D E K F S
H Z G F X L S S O K Q R X
O B F X x V T Y N T B T S
T S F G K U N Z D U C K Q
A R R P O W K U R I V R
What are you looking for right now?
Step by step then :
Undergr u und
Undergr o und
Looks like some U’s could be O’s.
For now I simply replaced all U’s to save time.
The hot air escaping from the chamber
Bottom left corner HOT STAR ARR POW
Could it be that STAR means the Star Chamber?
POW is Prisoner of WAR.
HOT ARR CHAMBER POW
R = I
Sort of makes sense.
But to get here :
I used a key though logical can not be derived from Kryptos at least not by me.
I used a layout which also can not be derived from Kryptos
I think you should look at ZOLA in the top left corner for now.
And maybe Sir, you should take a look at the end of K2 with the infamous IDBYROWS/LAYERTWO combo.
WJLLAETG
ABSCISSA
IDBYROWS
WZLLAETG
ABSCISSA
INBYROWS
… skipping a lot of alternatives like eg. WZQLAGET…
Could it be that the errors in Kryptos have a meaning?
QL from K1 could be LL
WJ from K2 could be WZ
maybe we have to arrange the pieces in a different order and/or reverse them?
K1 could be K3 or K2 depending on the direction you read ZOLA.
K2 is either K1 or K4.
Mister Sanborn said several times that K4 was improperly labeled.
But then again Mister Sanborn has made statements that shall we say are a little obscure… and the same logic can also be applied to find ZOLA within K2.
If you take the question marks in K2 and replace them with X they decode to MIJ,
Another interesting lead.
Personally I think K1 and K2 were never really solved at all and only after solving them properly will it become more clear.
Yes, I do not believe the LAYERTWO story it is too complicated.
Mister Sanborn saw a chance to get rid of the Z and took it.
Without that Z there is no logic and in my opinion Kryptos is unsolvable.
I am not a cryptographer neither a cryptoanalyst.
But you Sir know a lot about cryptographic systems.
Perhaps you can explore this better than I can.
I am going to look at DUH maybe it stands for H eads U p D isplay.
Most likely a fluke or a dead end but I can not resist the lure of it.
hmmm, PS YE SIP ALE.
Sorry, good luck Sir.
Sir, did you know about the following?
K1
THE MISsed X
SLOWLYDESPARATLYSLOWLYTHEREMAI
NSOFPASSAGEDEBRISTHATENCUMBERED
THELOWERPARTOFTHEDOORWAYWASREMO
VEDWITHTREMBLINGHANDSIMADEATINY
BREACHINTHEUPPERLEFTHANDCORNERA
NDTHENWIDENINGTHEHOLEALITTLEIIN
SERTEDTHECANDLEANDPEEREDINTHEHO
TAIRESCAPINGFROMTHECHAMBErCAUSE
DTHEFLAMETOFLICKERBUTPRESeNTLYD
ETAILSOFTHEROOMWITHINEmergEDFRO
MTHEMISTXCANYOUSEEANYHINTGO.
MTHEMISTXCANYOUSEE A NY HINT GO
Ignore the dot and place a space in the upper left corner.
The O at the end is the first O from “K4” and vice versa.
I just can not resist :
MTHEMISTXCANYOUSEE AsN YeH INT D OG
The width is 31
It seems the spacing gets lost on this page.
Anyway, it is supposed to read GOOD DOOR in the bottom right
DTHEFLAMETOFLICKERBUTPRESeNTLYD
ETAILSOFTHEROOMWITHINEmergEDFRO
MTHEMISTXCANYOUSEEAsNYeHINTdGO
and you should go to NY in “K4”
to find the right door?
F H V Y B V
Z X R N A Q C Y A Z J S E
O J I V P W M X G V D U M
C Y M O K M T T W P T D P
W L O D X S F Q N R Z D U
O K J S c I A Q M B U W Y
J P U P V P W J B N A R Z
L H F C X O F D P A H G W
almost there :
? F H V Y B V Z X R N
A Q C Y A Z J S E O J
I V P W M X G V D U M
C Y M O K M T T W P T
D P W L O D X S F Q N
R Z D U O K J S c I A
Q M B U W Y J P U P V
P W J B N A R Z L H F
C X O F D P A H G W
could it be the matrix is 11 by 9 subdivided in 2 parts, what do you think Sir?
what do you think is the correct ordering Sir?
W G H A P D F O X C
F H L Z R A N B J W P
V P U P J Y W U B M Q
? F H V Y B V Z X R N
A Q C Y A Z J S E O J
I V P W M X G V D U M
C Y M O K M T T W P T
D P W L O D X S F Q N
R Z D U O K J S c I A
Let’s be honest, I’m a little bit old. The others might get this one faster but unfortunately you’re stuck with explaining to me.
Let’s back it all up to the beginning.
Are you trying to solve the 4th part of Kryptos? What are your observations? What hypothesis did you derive from these observations? What is your method of testing your decryption method? What results did you acquire? Did they validate your hypothesis? If they did, did you decrypt plaintext that has the word BERLIN in it? If not, what did you learn and how will that influence your future attempts?
Do not worry I am old too and my memory is shaky.
On the back of this particular note the following is written :
NYPVTTMZFPDIGKUHUAUEKCAR
AKEYCOSURFTFUNTWOOLEVGOT
BERLINBRANDENBURGERTOWER
STEWARD
it looks like the note is incomplete.
I am trying to remember what the method was I used, this looks interesting
P.S. there is a file in the yahoo group that has better formatting :
iles > Personal Folders > Peter >The Illegitimate Letters
We’ve specifically avoided joining that particular group, I won’t be able to access that information
oh dear you know there is a kryptosfan posting in that group?
seems somebody wants to outdo Lon Chaney aka the man of a thousand faces
Any particular reason if I may ask?
That’s not us.
Odd enough that ID has been deleted makes you wonder why?
Sir, are you really interested in solving Kryptos and the reason why you can not solve it.
And no, I do not know either what it says, so far I am carefully avoiding the subject.
If you are just let me know and I can provide you with directions that may lead to something. Directions that untill now have been suppressed.
Just let me know Sir.
And no I am not a nutcase and I do not have a brilliant idea like a Deus Ex Machina but I think I am a keen observer.
Just let me know Sir.
This is probably going to be super messy :
A WAXYMASK a novel written by General von Spiegel and Peter van Dyke.
Chapter E : Sis cute! So nice to meet you.
******
? B K R U O X O G H U
L B S O L I F B B W F
L R V Q Q P R N G K S
S O T W T Q S J Q S S
E K Z Z W A T J K L U
D I A W I N F B n Y P
V T T M Z F P K W G D
K Z X T J C D I G K U
H U A U E K C A R O
L
? I A B Y F O F Q U Y
X I G F X V N I I T N
X B P R R D B K Q A G
G F E T E R G W R G G
M A S S T H E W A X Y
L V H T V K N I k C D
P E E Z S N D A T Q L
A S O E W J L V Q A Y
U Y H Y M A J H B F
? F H V Y B V Z X R N
A Q C Y A Z J S E O J
I V P W M X G V D U M
C Y M O K M T T W P T
D P W L O D X S F Q N
R Z D U O K J S c I A
Q M B U W Y J P U P V
P W J B N A R Z L H F
C X O F D P A H G B
? O Y D C R T I R X W
Z T Y A Z Y B D M F B
N D D L V G Q J J C X
Y A S F W V J P L B J
M T H O F P E X N G W
Q Y P Z W A B D h U K
X S J I H U V T Z V E
T H P J F F Q Y C Y K
L M C K M T F L Q R
***
R A C K E U A U H
U K G I D C J T X Z K
D G W K P F Z M T T V
P Y n B F N I W A I D
U L K J T A W Z Z K E
S S Q J S Q T W T O S
S K G N R P Q Q V R L
F W B B F I L O S B L
U H G O X O U R K B ?
B H J A M Y H Y U
Y A Q V L J W E O S A
L Q T A D N S Z E E P
D C k I N K V T H V L
Y X A W E H T S S A M
G G R W G R E T E F G
G A Q K B D R R P B X
N T I I N V X F G I X
Y U Q F O F Y B A I ?
O O K F Y N H Y R
N U X M B K T K V L F
I D I F A C L E K X G
J S l E W V F I N M B
F H P G M N T W L F Y
P T R N P D B T X Z M
C H P K O R D R Z E A
W T S E W M I Z M F I
F C L Y J L X E U Q ?
H C N N Z W L C X
W C R D G N P W T O N
A J Y N K I O S W E R
V E u M K J L Y Z D G
K O T M S Z Q H O N Z
B J B F B E J Q E I X
Y Y V A H S E B N P Z
K Q D M K D N I X O N
K L C A P W M P C T ?
***
? B K R U O X O G H U
L B S O L I F B B W F
L R V Q Q P R N G K S
S O T W T Q S J Q S S
E K Z Z W A T J K L U
D I A W I N F B n Y P
V T T M Z F P K W G D
K Z X T J C D I G K U
H U A U E K C A R O
? F H V Y B V Z X R N
A Q C Y A Z J S E O J
I V P W M X G V D U M
C Y M O K M T T W P T
D P W L O D X S F Q N
R Z D U O K J S c I A
Q M B U W Y J P U P V
P W J B N A R Z L H F
C X O F D P A H G B
***
? F H V Y B V Z X R N
A Q C Y A Z J S E O J
I V P W M X G V D U M
C Y M O K M T T W P T
D P W L O D X S F Q N
R Z D U O K J S c I A
Q M B U W Y J P U P V
P W J B N A R Z L H F
C X O F D P A H G B
? B G H A P D F O X C
F H L Z R A N B J W P
V P U P J Y W U B M Q
A I c S J K O U D Z R
N Q F S X D O L W P D
T P W T T M K O M Y C
M U D V G X M W P V I
J O E S J Z A Y C Q A
N R X Z V B Y V H F ?
***
CPQRDCIA
? B G H A P D F O X C
P W J B N A R Z L H F
V P U P J Y W U B M Q
R Z D U O K J S c I A
N Q F S X D O L W P D
C Y M O K M T T W P T
M U D V G X M W P V I
A Q C Y A Z J S E O J
N R X Z V B Y V H F
? B G H A P D F O X C
P F H L Z R A N B J W
V P U P J Y W U B M Q
R Z D U O K J S c I A
N Q F S X D O L W P D
C T P W T T M K O M Y
M U D V G X M W P V I
A Q C Y A Z J S E O J
N R X Z V B Y V H F
***
STEWARD
N Y P V T T M Z F P D I G K U H U A U E K C A R
A K E Y C O S U R F T F U N T W O O L E V G O T
B E R L I N B R A N D E N B U R G E R T O W E R
0 1 2 3 4 6 7 8 9 A B C D
N Y P V T T M Z F P D I G K U H U A U E K C A R
B E R L I N G J B R O T Y T N V B E L N T A R I (ATARI?)
A K E Y C O R A K E Y I A K E Y C O R A K E Y I
***
TWO
***
O.BKRUOXOGHULBSOLIFBBWFLRVQQPRNG.K
S.SOTWTQSJQSSEKZZWATJKLUDIAWINFB.N
Y.PVTTMZFPKWGDKZXTJCDIGKUHUAUEKC.A
R
OK.NS.AY.R
Really makes you wonder if somebody played Zork does it not, Sir?
better layout
Chapter F1 : The mother kissed her children twice in a row.
O.BKRUO.XOGHU.LBSOL.IFBBW.FLRVQ.QPRNG.K
S.SOTWT.QSJQS.SEKZZ.WATJK.LUDIA.WINFB.N
Y.PVTTM.ZFPKW.GDKZX.TJCDI.GKUHU.AUEKC.A
R
OK.NS.AY.R
an example :
VIG X KRYPTOS
O.BKRUO.XOGHU.LBSOL.IFBBW.FLRVQ.QPRNG.K
Y.PVTTM.ZFPKW.GDKZX.TJCDI.GKUHU.AUEKC.A
S.SOTWT.QSJQS.SEKZZ.WATJK.LUDIA.WINFB.N
R
OK.NS.AY.R
OK.YA.SN.R
D.JMBAX.GDOJE.RMXDT.KPHMD.UTTFW.BWGVI.U
D.ACIBO.ILARL.OFUEK.AZKFS.MVBWC.CEKVJ.P
A.UZXHA.FALAZ.DLXGA.GGEQX.TWNOL.DYVHL.T
C
VX.VU.KD.C
VX.FC.CT.C
Found another note but it is a bit hard to decrypt, especially the part about the method used , maybe I try that later :
:. B E T W E E N S U B T L E S H A N O I S U L Q I F O E C N
A U N E H T S E I L T H G I L F O E C N E S B A E H T D N A G N I D
. B E T W E E N S U B T L E S H A S I U Q L O N I F O E C N
A U N E H T S E I L T H G I L F O E C S B A N E E H T D N A G N I D
D I N G A N D T H E E N A B S C E O F L I G H T L I E S T H E N U A
N C E O F I N O Q L U I S A H S E L T B U S N E E W T E B .
.
B E T W E E N S
U B T L E S H A
D I N G A N D T
H E A B S E N C
E O F L I G H T
L I E S T H E N
U A N C E O F I
Q L U S I O N
SHAN
EUBB SHAN AQLU IN F
F BISE ANT TUNE
GHOO H2O WATER WAT ER GO HO (UNCLE)
A tiny breach was made :
T B E T W E E N
S U B T L E S H
A D I N G A N D
T H E A B S E N
C E O F L I G H
T L I E S T H E
N U A N C E O F
I Q L U S I O N
No comment
***
Try again :
B E T W E E N
S U B T L E S
H A D I N G A
N D T H E A B
S E N C E O F
L I G H T L I
E S T H E N U
A N C E O F I
Q L U S I O N
WTIHCHHES WTIH CHHES (wich h hes t)
The Absence of Light The Black of Night BLACK KNIGHT BLACK
LIGHT UV
B E T W E E N 0
H A D I N G A 2
S U B T L E S 1
N D T H E A B 3
S E N C E O F 4
L I G H T L I 5
E S T H E N U 6
A N C E O F I 7
Q L U S I O N 8
KISS Keep it simple
The Deep Throat Of Codes aka The Teacher’s Key
The Deep Throwat Of Codes
Ed E(ncrypt) the PT W
BETWEENSUBTLESHADINGANDTHEABSENC
EOFLIGHTLIESTHENEOFIQLUSSJDION
OBRQBBJPMORHBPETAFJDTJAREBTOPBJS
BYCHFDERHFBPREBJBYCFLHMPPGAFYJ
OBKRUOXOGHULBSOLIFBBWFLRVQQPRNGKSSOTWTQSJQSSEKZZWATJKLUDIAWINF
BNYPVTTMZFPKWGDKZXTJCDIGKUHUAUEKCAR
OBR
OBK
CAN YOU SEE ANYTHING Q
CAN YOU SEE ANYTHING K
K is full stop
O B K 0
S S O T W T Q S J Q S S E K 2
R U O X O G H U L B S O L I F B B W F L R V Q Q P R N G K 1
Z Z W A T J K 3
L U D I A W I N F B N Y P V T T M Z F P K W G D K 4
Z X T J C D I G K 5
U H U A U E K 6
C A R 7
BSSO bit rude after all this work…
O B K 0
S S O T W T Q S J Q S S E K 2
R U O X O G H U L B S O L I F B B W F L R V Q Q P R N G K 1
Z Z W A T J K 3
L U D I A W I N F B N Y P V T T M Z F P K W G D K 4
Z X T J C D I G K 5
U H U A U E K 6
C A R 7
O B K 0
S S O T W T Q S J Q S S E K 2
R U O X O G H U L B S O L I F B B W F L R V Q Q P R N G K 1
Z Z W A T J K 3
L U D I A W I N F B N Y P V T T M Z F P K W G D K 4
Z X T J C D I G K 5
U H U A U E K 6
C A R 7
***
Hello Sailor! 😉
Miss Elonka Dunin
1 23456789
Miss ED lonka unin L on K A U Nin [space]KRYPTOSA
MISSED
ELO 12345678
NKA ONE A ABCDEFGH
*** TALLY HO
Hot Ally kick the throttle and the last one in the bar is a
sissy.
siscy
sicily operation torch
Fpfjdhtpp
*
THE BLACK KNIGHT UV ULTRA VIOLET TOP SECRET
KNIGHT
KNIGHT SHIELD AND SWORD
BETWEEN SHIELD AND SWORD AND THE BLACK KNIGHT LIES …..
KITE (the black stone in the courtyard)
HIGH AS A KITE 8 MILES HIGH
OX CAR
On 26 January 1960, the CIA ordered 12 A-12 aircraft.
After selection by the CIA, further design and production of
the A-12 took place under the code-name Oxcart.
OXCART
A-12
Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird
?OBKR UOXOG
HULBS OLIFB
BWFLR VQQPR
NGKSS OTWTQ
SJQSS EKZZW
ATJKL UDIAW
INFBN YPVTT
MZFPK WGDKZ
XTJCD IGKUH
UAUEK CAR
.ZFPK WGDKZ
XTJCD IGKUH
UAUEK CAR
SR
.NEWZ LFTZN
WXIPC CFQQB
QRQOZ PSU
.NEWZ LEFT Z IS N
.NEWN LFTZN
WXIPC CFQQB
QRQOZ PSU
.NEWZ LEFT Q IS U
.NEWN LFTZN
WXIPC CFQQB
QRUOZ PSU
Z OUR Q
GO X OUR KBO
GO Z OUR QBO
EXCHANGE THE Q AT END OF K3 WITH THE K AT START OF K3
.NEWN LFTZN
WXIPC CFQQB
QRUOZ PSU
.NEWZ LEFT Z IS N
.NEWZ LFTZN
WXIPC CFQQB
QRQON PSU
NOQRQ NO QRQ
.NEWZ LFTZN
WXIPC CFQQB
.R.ON PSU
PS U R ON
STOP PUZZLE ASSUME SHORTCUT
W ION
ION is what is known as K1 Do W on K1
RESUME
Only WW knows
.NEWZ LFTZN
WXIPC CFQQB
QRQOZ PSU
ZIP ZIL
Q NR EQ WWO ZXZ I LPP FCS TU ZC NF QQB
Q
NR
EQ
WWO
ZXZ
I
LPP
FCS
TU
ZC
NF
QQB
Q NEW ZIL FTZNQ
WX PC Q
RQ OZ PS U C NB
Q
NEW
ZIL
FTZNQ
WX
PC
Q
RQ
OZ
PS
U
C
NB
SEMI STOP PUZZLE
ASSUME SUBTLE IS SUB T LE
BETWEENSUBTLESHADINGA ND THE ABSENC
EOFLIGHTLIESTHENUANCE OF IQL USION
LE
ZVUBYVDLFNUYYLOMRKDXX TR IOV XNWVDQ
YJPYSXOIBKYLUZYTFMDQY JP KEY FLSJD
BETWEENSUBTLESHADINGA ND THE ABSENC
EOFLIGHTLIESTHENUANCE OF ILL USION
BETWEENSUBTLESHADINGA ND THE ABSENC
EOFLIGHTLIESTHENUANCE OF FLU USION
Ask Ulli von Z to cheat past this :
EMUFPHZLRFAXYUSDJKZLD KR NSH GNFIVJ
YQTQUXQBQVYUVLLTREVJY QT MKY RDMFD
RACKEUAUHUKGIDCJTXZKD GW KPF ZMTTVP YNB
BETWEENSUBTLESHADINGA ND THE ABSENC
EOFLIGHTLIESTHENUANCE OF IQL USION
FISQKIPMATEUFTXDKUMCU UQ QMS UIWGAE ZGW
BETWEENSUBTLESHADINGA ND THE ABSENC
EOFLIGHTLIESTHENUANCE OF IQL USIONO (Q inserted at end)
CTPIOLTHWSBDCZPFRLBEM DL IWB VEGITK VBY
BETWEENSUBTLESHADINGA ND THE ABSEN
CEOFLIGHTLIESTHENUANCE OF IQL USION
FISQKIPMATEUFTXDKUMCUU QQ MSU IWGAE ZGW
RESUME
DO YOU SEE ANYTHING Q
No, I do not see the POINT (DOT)
6 . 5 = 30
Is there a morse section that has 6 dots on the left side?
Align the plaintext of K2 in rowa of 30 subdivided in groups of
5.
ITWAS TOTAL LYINV ISIBL EHOWS THATP
OSSIB LE?TH EYUSE DTHEE ARTHS MAGNE
TICFI ELDXT HEINF ORMAT IONWA SGATH
EREDA NDTRA NSMIT TEDUN DERGR UUNDT
OANUN KNOWN LOCAT IONXD OESLA NGLEY
KNOWA BOUTT HIS?T HEYSH OULDI TSBUR
IEDOU TTHER ESOME WHERE XWHOK NOWST
HEEXA CTLOC ATION ?ONLY WWTHI SWASH
ISLAS TMESS AGEXT HIRTY EIGHT DEGRE
ESFIF TYSEV ENMIN UTESS IXPOI NTFIV
ESECO NDSNO RTHSE VENTY SEVEN DEGRE
ESEIG HTMIN UTESF ORTYF OURSE CONDS
WESTI DBYRO WS
Note the question marks, replace them with X and they will
decode to MIJ
LE?TH
HIS?T
?ONLY
LEmTG
HHBiU
jSLDY
Note the question marks, replace them with S and they will
decode to KWX
IM JK WK
LEkTG
HHBwU
xSLDY
MIJ
KWX
IM JK WK
HIF
TAS
FAST HI
AH FIST
SHAFT I (ONE)
***
TWO
***
qqq
O x x x x B
x x K R U O
X O G H U L
B S O L I F
B B W F L R
V Q Q P R N
G K S S O T
W T Q S J Q
S S E K Z Z
W A T J K L
U D I A W I *
N F B N Y P
V T T M Z F
P K W G D K
Z X T J C D
I G K U H U
A U E K C A
Rqqqqqqqqqq
ryz
M a j y f K
v a W S C X
V R S I C U
Z V A M Q O
Z E I G T A
T T C Q Z W
E N E T W C
U W C T R Z
Q V Q L H I
U D F K S U
S G U B E R *
L I N O G Y
T W F N H O
N N I H L T
X A F K K M
G J W V P D
Y X Q L K J
Ptcryzotcry
s s s
O x x x x B
x x K R U O
X O G H U L
B S O L I F
B B W F L R
V Q Q P R N
G K S S O T
W T Q S J Q
S S E K Z Z
W A T J K L
U D I A W I *
N F B N Y P
V T T M Z F
P K W G D K
Z X T J C D
I G K U H U
A s U E K C
A R a a a a
t a b
M a j y f K
v a W S C X
V R S I C U
Z V A M Q O
Z E I G T A
T T C Q Z W
E N E T W C
U W C T R Z
Q V Q L H I
U D F K S U
S G U B E R *
L I N O G Y
T W F N H O
N N I H L T
X A F K K M
G J W V P D
Y v G F S L
Y U m b i j
well, that looks interesting, even the trademark is there.
What does it mean?
Kryptosfan: I think it’s interesting that you don’t read the Yahoo groups. I also don’t read them. Some of my reasons:
+ I don’t want to fall into someone else’s mental traps. Obviously they haven’t solved it yet, so whatever they are doing, no matter how good it looks to them, isn’t completely working
+ It’s a nice feeling working alone, just me vs. the void. Also, I have a good feeling for my own repertoire of ideas that come out of that work. Something I find some day may remind me of something else I found a while ago, since both of those ideas were my originals. I don’t know if I’d be as attached to someone else’s idea that I read about, and may not draw it up seven months later when it might be relevant.
[ I’m sure there are some cognitive bias type problems with working alone, oh well ]
But most importantly:
+ The folks on the yahoo group(s) are involved in a group effort. They share what they find, but I don’t want to share. It wouldn’t be right for me to take and not give.
What are your reasons? Also, why are you referring to yourself in the plural?
Live and let share I say why keep it a secret?
Anyway the following looks like it could have happened :
Z S R C X O
He really did take a X (TEN) out or rather a representation of X.
And not at the end of but at the start of “K4”.
End of K2
PLAYERTWO else you never will find the game in Kryptos.
TWO
TWO = binary 10 decimal 02
X = binary 10 decimal 10
decimal 02 10 binary = decimal 0210 or binary 06
decimal 10 10 binary = decimal 1010 or binary 09
TWO IS TEN TEN IS TWO TENnIS
GAME (ask Uncle Ho)
SET end of K2
MATCH
UsASu at end, Mister Sanborn gave this one away : I love my country so much
SET QE
Not complete yet (quick note MATCH BOX DINKY TOY)
VIG with standard ABCDE…. Z S R C X O
s e t O B K
R U O X O G
H U L B S O
L I F B B W
F L R V Q Q
P R N G K S
S O T W T Q
S J Q S S E
K Z Z W A T
J K L U D I
A W I N F B *
N Y P V T T
M Z F P K W
G D K Z X T
J C D I G K
U H U s A s
U E K C A R
t m c M E W
S C X V R S
I C U Z V A
M Q O Z E I
G T A T T C
Q Z W E N E
T W C U W C
T R Z Q V Q
L H I U D F
K S U S G U
B E R L I N *
O G Y T W F
N H O N N I
H L T X A F
K K M G J W
V P D q D e
V M T A D D
ENCRYPT
r w k Q Y Y
Q M F Z L U
G M C D P C
K A W D Y K
E D I X N E
O J E I H G
R G K Y Q E
R B H U P S
J R Q Y X H
I C C W A W
Z O Z P C P *
M Q G X Q H
L R W R H K
F V B B U H
I U U K D Y
T Z L u X g
T W B E X F
hey LUX spotted!
. . ? t m c
M E W S C X
V R S I C U
Z V A M Q O
Z E I G T A
T T C Q Z W
E N E T W C
U W C T R Z
Q V Q L H I
U D F K S U
S G U B E R *
L I N O G Y
T W F N H O
N N I H L T
X A F K K M
G J W V P D
q D e V M T
A D D
***
TWO
***
You can also simply replace X’s with the letters ten to achieve a similar result but that breaks the keyword
hmm, first X with TEN, second with NIS good idea too.
Sir, did you know about the following?
O B K R U O X O G
ROT13 gives
B O X E H B K B T
reverse it :
G O X O U R K B O
T B K B H E X O B
TB Tiny Breach
KB
HE
XOB
could it be this is meant to identify this part of Kryptos as “standing” on its own\?
So it is a collection of puzzle pieces we do have to solve?
Well, it seems a war has started so I may not have the time left I thought I had left :
ROT13
b O X E H b K b T U H Y O F b Y
V S O O J S Y E I D D C E A T X
F F b G J G D F W D F F R X M M
J N G W X Y H q V N J V A S O a
l c i g g Z M S C X J T q X M K
G W P q V T X H U H N H R X P N
E
corners BYE (GOODbye)
top letft corner BSB come on that is so cheesy.
Insert the Candle (aka the ?)
? b O X E H b K b T U H Y O F b (COBK will crypt to PBOX)
Y V S O O J S Y E I D D C E A T
X F F b G J G D F W D F F R X M
M J N G W X Y H q V N J V A S O
a l c i g g Z M S C X J T q X M
K G W P q V T X H U H N H R X P
N E
right column B T MOM P an anagram for PT B e MOM e for encrypt?
VIG KRYPTOS MOM
? k D J P N k M g V G N Q W L k
Q R X W D B X A P A I Y R J Z V
P T T g O B M Y T Y Y T L N J W
D B X O I P Q S z H E U H Z E W
z v r a m o L W X R P B V z J D
O O I B f H C J S K S E N N J B
E P
Interesting right colum KV WW DB
NYPVTT is now ZVRAMO
For his part, Webster, the former CIA Director, said yesterday
that he had long since forgotten the answer. “I have zero memory of this,”
he said. “It was philosophical and obscure.”
It is a no brainer this is what we were supposed to find .
Question is what does it mean? Where do we go from here now?
I hope many many people will read this and share this knowledge so one day this recruit.too…. ehr puzzle can finally be solved.
So refreshing to know the whole world can read this and maybe it leads to something
o B K R U o
X o G H U L
B S o L I F
B B W F L R
V Q Q P R N
G K S S o T
W T Q S J Q
S S E K Z Z
W A T J K L
U d I A W I
N F B n y p
v t t M Z F
P K W G d K
Z X T J C d
I G K U H U
A U E K C A
R
o B K R U o
X o G H U L
B S o L I F
B B W F L R
V Q Q P R N
G K S S o T
OT h
h U D K N h
Q h Z A N E
U L h E B Y
U U P Y E K
O J J I K G
Z D L L h M
VIG ISPY
w E R G P h
P d N R L T
Q M e T E F
B A O F O G
T J G E K G
A K R M e I
O N G H F J
I H J T U Q
O Z J Z G B
L v E Z N X
V F B c s i
m i y O U B
X T N S c T
U Y Y P S v
E D R J D Q
V J J T S U
K
o B K R U o X
o G H U L B S
o L I F B B W
F L R V Q Q P
R N G K S S o
T W T Q S J Q
S S E K Z Z W
A T J K L U d
I A W I N F B
n y p v t t M
Z F P K W G d
K Z X T J C d
I G K U H U A
U E K C A R
top
BOOKGBRHK UUROLUXBO
GUIKEGUKK HCUUAHARU
bottom
interesting
I managed to decrypt another note today from 1991 it says
OTP PUZZLE
End of K2 SPLAYERTWO
PLAY TOWERS
Start of K4 GOXOURKBO ?
K1 EOF SHA NOI
GO PLAY TOWERS OF HANOI
ORDER
K4 K2 K1
Really now, with 4 pegs even, where to start?
Just simply OTP the squares and in which order?
Is the R a key which has to be used first? (each step)
Use BERLIN as a crib 4 times?
o B K R U o
X o G H U L
B S o L I F
B B W F L R
V Q Q P R N
G K S S o T
W T Q S J Q
S S E K Z Z
W A T J K L
U d I A W I
N F B n y p
v t t M Z F
P K W G d K
Z X T J C d
I G K U H U
A U E K C A
R
s C R Y V s
Z s H I V M
C A s M J G
C C X G M Y
W U U T Y Q
H R A A s O
X O U A L U
A A F R K K
X B O L R M
V e J B X J
Q G C q p t
w o o N K G
T R X H e R
K Z O L D e
J H R V I V
B V F R D B
Y
At bottom TRX?
What is your opinion Sir on this method?
The ? at start of K4 should have been a real space pointing to OTP.
For reasons unknown he inserted the ? and it passed the quality control.
It did however break the OTP hint.
The R of Car and the extra L are suspicious too QL RQ hmmm LR
LE?TH
Continuation
A rewind with a slight twist
UU = Unseen University
NCE = riNCEwind
extra L from the Alphabet side last character from ROT 13 E
L E e was used in the Morse to be read as space
L space
so the quest ion mark does not have to represent a space.
and it could be valid….
time for a table this is getting complex
The Q at the end of K3 could indeed be intended as a filler.
It could be replaced with for example :
just a real space
X as seen elsewhere in Kryptos
R from QR
e which in morse code is one dit
The entrance puzzle (Dot the T) can be read as 1 something 2 something 3 total)
e one dit
i TWO dots
s three dots
h four dots
zero five dots (V)
so write the Roman numerals in K4 as for example V = 5 dots eqeals zero equals a space?
quote :
use them one by one and then take out the spaces… Jim Sanborn
quick mini puzzle
eh eye es
ehs eyes ess
e eye s
ye you
Amazing enough this all started because I only wanted to show that Q is D in ROT13.
q ? o B K R U o X o G H U L B S
o L I F B B W F L R V Q Q P R N
G K S S o T W T Q S J Q S S E K
Z Z W A T J K L U d I A W I N F
B n y p v t t M Z F P K W G d K
Z X T J C d I G K U H U A U E K
C A R
d ? b O X E H b K b T U H Y O F
b Y V S O O J S Y E I D D C E A
T X F F b G J G D F W D F F R X
M M J N G W X Y H q V N J V A S
O a l c i g g Z M S C X J T q X
M K G W P q V T X H U H N H R X
P N E
db .define block TMOMP
HEX is base 16, 16 could be the correct matrix length if it really exists.
OXOOXAAA
X = 10 3 * A = 13
0A AA 10 176
08 136
? o B K R U o X o G H U L B S
o L I F B B W F L R V Q Q P R N
G K S S o T W T Q S J Q S S E K
Z Z W A T J K L U d I A W I N F
B n y p v t t M Z F P K W G d K
Z X T J C d I G K U H U A U E K
C A R
? b O X E H b K b T U H Y O F
b Y V S O O J S Y E I D D C E A
T X F F b G J G D F W D F F R X
M M J N G W X Y H q V N J V A S
O a l c i g g Z M S C X J T q X
M K G W P q V T X H U H N H R X
P N E
***
C ? o B K R U o X o G H U L B S
o L I F B B W F L R V Q Q P R N
G K S S o T W T Q S J Q S S E K
Z Z W A T J K L U d I A W I N F
B n y p v t t M Z F P K W G d K
Z X T J C d I G K U H U A U E K
q A R
P ? b O X E H b K b T U H Y O F
b Y V S O O J S Y E I D D C E A
T X F F b G J G D F W D F F R X
M M J N G W X Y H q V N J V A S
O a l c i g g Z M S C X J T q X
M K G W P q V T X H U H N H R X
d N E
Hmmm PT BY X FF by FO (15 15)