That’s what I get for setting setting up some posts in advance and taking some time off!
$50 for emails with Sanborn?
BERLINCLOCK
I’ll go dig around in the comments everyone has left but am not sure how this will help us any more than Berlin did. My first thought is that it will be easy to get lost in trying to assign meaning to the words Berlin and Clock instead of trying to reverse the ciphering.
Added: Audio interview thanks to Franky (http://goo.gl/eQKDLC)
And the Clock in question:
It would figure that someone like Sanborn would like Mengenlehreuhr…
Again, keep in mind that we were only to find the phrase “berlin clock” after decryption: attempting to use this particular clock to decipher K4 is not going to help.
The context with the other 97 letters will be certainly interesting in the end though.
p.s. I do think that this clock is supposed to help us understand a final message or experience (i.e. K5), I just don’t think it was meant to help solve K4. If Kryptos is the progenitor of his artwork immediately following then we can see there is some relationship with the copperplate and illumination/shadows created by it with a light source. The simplest method would be to look through the cutout letters but shining a light through seems more likely to me personally.
Kryptos - Beyond K4 
“Time” off…ha ha ha ha….:-)
=)
You know, in retrospect, if there was a “whirlpool” and a light then it would cause a flickering effect of letters spontaneously appearing in fragments all around the courtyard/CIA. To me that would be a fitting testament to cryptology’s efforts to decipher rapidly delivered fragments and pieces of text.
If Kryptos had been circular the effect would have been perfect but there would have been maintenance issues with the pool and lighting – perhaps this is the explanation for our S-shape?
Personally, I think helps. If we include the “?” and put the cipher text in to a grid of width 7, the length with which is shows some periodicity, then a P and P are above each other. These P’s correspond to the plaintext letters R and C. This at least clarifies that they cannot be encoded in the same way, suggest that the columns aren’t encoded in the same way. Well least if the mapping is one to one.
And the fact K -> K is interesting…perhaps…or perhaps I’ve just lost the plot.
I’d agree people have lost the plot. Personally, im going with surjective function (at the very least): As in mapping a surjective function onto a cartesian plane. Im also reevaluating the vigenere cypher because it need to be looked at as a diagonal argument. Ive always thought there was something fishy about the cipher.http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantor%27s_diagonal_argument
well, if you think it could be a clock than it could be an hour glass. 8 x ” Berlin” in the top and 7x “Kryptos ” in the bottom for 97 total. Since letters from Kryptos ie PTOS can give you Berlin, I think it’s more than possible.
PS Now we have a Glock to put behind Sanborn’s Spiel!
Does one remember the scene in the movie,
Mission to Mars, whereby the correct missing
dna code had to be transmitted before the “face”
would allow entry?
Similarly perhaps “BERLIN” is in fact an answer to a question that virtually no one could comprehend¿,
except, of course, the man that is at his beckon
call.
“$50 for emails with Sanborn?”
I would happily pay this if only I knew what his email address was. 😦
Maybe his email address is part of K4? Did we have email back then????
His email is kryptos@earthlink.net Pretty easy to ‘decode’ from this message: http://jimsanborn.net/kryptos_fees.pdf
The $50 seems tacky and desperate. I don’t think we’d need to ask Jim if we actually had a solution. We’d know we’d had it all, and anyone could verify it. The solution would spread like wildfire when someone gets it. Jim doesn’t reveal anything new in email correspondence anyway, so basically we’d be paying $50 to hear Jim say, “that’s not it,” which might be worth the money from a story perspective.
That would all depend on if you wanted to share your answer or if you wanted to also keep it a secret so that others may uncover the text.
You may also want to keep it private so hat if there was a k5 you could work on it alone.
What if you know you have the solution and just want it verified?
I shouldn’t have to release my answer to just anyone.
What if i want to make a profit from it just like Sanborn?
Don’t waste your money on trying to get any info from Sanborn. All you get is a canned reply neither confirming nor rejecting your solution. Figuring out the solution is actually not very complicated. Trying to convince the public that you have the solution is the hard part.
How do you know you have the solution? You proposed solution doesn’t contain “BerlinClock” and it is nowhere near 97 letters long.
You will never convince the public you have the solution, only Mr. S. can do that.
I refer you to this post:
I just emailed Sanborn today… Is this fact? I have a solid method which has decrypted Berlin and Clock along with a few other words. The method checks out. I’m not sure if the maths is applied into any traditional cryptography methods as i’m not too clued up on pen and paper workings , just machines, but mathematically and logically it works A1. I’ve emailed Sanborn (avec monetary requirements) just to get a ‘ yay ‘ or ‘ Nay’ answer. But will he be of any use? I mean, fair enough if you’re a total idiot he’s well within his rights to troll you. But if you’re “legit”, then surely he would tell you. Besides the fact that every other attempt i’ve made, i have had the smallest of doubts in my gut but on this one there is absolutely no room for doubt whatsoever. It just works. All i want is for someone to say, “Yup” then i’ll bury it. Tbh i don’t want to know what the rest of it says. I’ll be happy living my life *wanting* to know, as it’s the onl thing i want
I like the feeling! Could always sell the key and never look beyond Facebook everytime i log on?
out of curiousity, was your method given verification? Not asking for anything but I’d like to know if it has actually been decoded
All the automobile manufacturers do certain things in common:
Among them are:
4 wheels
steering wheel
gas pedal
brake pedal
mirrors
glovebox
seat
heater
emergency brake
brakes
muffler
radiator
etc
etc
but for the most part, they do not share designs.
Ah, its been a while.
So, something i noticed:
BERLINCLOCK
NYPVTTMZFPK
Notice the K’s line up? Just graphed it up, and noticed. This could mean many things.
Anyone have an idea.
Having the K decode to K means it was not encoded by an Enigma machine.
Good catch! This also rules out any transposition as the words follow each other directly.
CLOCK will help with decoding the entirety of K4, but the real key is in BERLIN.
Primarily in the relation TT has with IN.
Something critical happens with double letter sets that alters the alphabetical arrangement of cypher to solution.
TT is the sixth set of double letters.
BERLIN falls within the sixth sequence.
The second T is six letters off from N.
666 the cypher of the beast lmao!
Seriously though I spent about an hour playing with letters and numbers to find those coincidental 6’s so I have to share it even if just as a joke to ease my frustration 😛
And I do think that since, as you pointed out, the K’s line up, I have a hunch that perhaps the lettering changes somehow.
And something I noticed. In his first revelation he showed BERLIN over the K4 lettering. But with the CLOCK it’s actually shown replacing the K4 lettering, so could it be that the TT is a signal to switch the direction of the lettering… to explain, after TT you would go MZFPK = KCOLC.
This would explain why it starts with a question mark, if the first question (and if it is even a question) is actually backwards. Following that logic, by the time you reach the sixth set that contains TT, you would be going forwards for BERLIN’s segment, then backwards for CLOCK’s segment.
I messed with that thinking a bit and tried making some translations, but my piece of paper looks like something the zodiac killer would have laying around his apartment, nothing seemed to be panning out, and the inside of my brain feels even messier than the sheets of paper, so I need to sleep now.
Have fun, cause that’s all that really matters 🙂
Hello from Spain
+ I disagree
The only clock in Berlin with a Rose compass (like Kriptos) is the clock “Atomic Clock (Weltzeituhr)” was designed by Erich John and erected in 1969 in Alexander Platz, East Berlin. It’s original name was Urania World Time Clock, Also called “Die Urania” by Berlin Citizens.
See and enjoy
+ About “IN” = “TT”
you can change the order of the words
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
so I N are together (5 movements, 4 characters between)
A bcde F ghij K lmno P…….
AFKPVZEJOTYD IN SXCHMRWBGLQV
or vice versa
ZUPKFAVQLGBWRMHCXS NI DYTOJE
then IN (or NI ) can be on the same line as T in a square or circle.
+ I think we need “The Cryptograph”, a “clock” developed by Charles Wheatstone
http://www.powerhousemuseum.com/insidethecollection/2011/01/the-cryptograph/
…. or The Alberti cipher disk slightly amended.
Very interesting find!
ADDENDA: 24 December AD 2014.
The Vigenère Cipher is therefore sometimes called the Alberti Disc or Alberti Cipher.
A good example of the Vigenère Cipher is the Confederate Cipher Disk that was used as a field cipher during the American Civil War (1861-1865). It was usually supplied in a small leather bag. CSA stands for Confederate States of America, and SS means Secret Service.
Only five original Confederate Cipher Discs are known to have survived. A reasonable reproduction that is available from the gift shop at the National Cryptologic Museum (NCM), the NSA’s public museum in Fort Meade (Maryland, USA). They are also frequently offered on Ebay.
Source: http://www.cryptomuseum.com/crypto/vigenere/
Addenda
+ The video for the song, shot at the World Clock in Alexanderplatz Berlin, features an early appearance by Jason Statham as a silver-painted background dancer. “Run to the Sun” is a song by British synthpop duo Erasure, released as the second single from their sixth studio album “I Say I Say I Say” (1994).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Run_to_the_Sun
+ It may be necessary to add four numbers (1,2,3,4) as in the cipher disk of Alberti
Some of these letters may just be coordinates on the companion text;
(OXO) ghul
BSOLIF
(BB) WFLRV
(QQ) PRNGK
(SS) O
(TWT) QSJQ
(SS) EK
(ZZ) WATJ
KLUDIAW
INFNYPV
(TT) MZFPK
WDGKZXT
JCDIGK
(UHU) AUEK
CAROBKR
“U”
Some lines have double letters in the companion text which may be related to these. I know these things don’t always start at the begining so I took off the 4 letters on the first line and put them on the bottom and the first letter “U” I’m guessing is “q”
Hey I might of got one letter! wow after twenty some years!
sorry, I forgot the “b” before NYP
Between T and T in the row with 2 T’s of the companion text are 21 letters;
NQUVWZKRYP
ADD
NYPVTTMZFPK
Actually scramble first
QYVRUXPZKNW
KFVTNPYPTZM
BERLIN OPEN J
I was also able to get WHEAT instead of open j for the person who found the Wheatstone clock
The ‘wheat ‘ should have been weapo (?)
anyway I tried the 7 letters between the “bb” and instead of trying to make silly words, I went with the symmetry
IFBBWFL
RYPTOSA
scramble and add
BLFIWFB
YOSPART
AAYYXXV
Maybe the companion piece is just a reflexion of the Kryptos side (?)
I just tried this on my previous post for Berlin
AKNPRVVWXYZ
ZYVTTPPNMKF
add
AJJJKKKKLLF
So this may point to how it was encrypted.
Just realized there should be a “the” before “berlinclock” so technically we now have “theberlinclock” as a plaintext break…
My library book is on stone henge. It’s like this in the way that different people can come up with seven or eight different geometrical representations of the same data and all are “correct” I think the less we listen to Sanborn, the better. I hope this break works out!
Gil Grissom (CSI): “I tend not to believe people; they lie. The evidence never lies. ”
If “berlinclock” is THE plaintext break we can to start from the end, by the peculiarities of the text unveiled & coded
I tried
JKLUDIAWINFB
OSABCDEFGHIJ
and in there is
NWIDIFBU
OBIECFGH
Cyrillic
Is there a Cyrillic clock in Berlin?
There is a Cyrillic alphabet
Neither BERLIN nor CLOCK show up as plaintext. They are just clues.
The word TANGRAM is involved in the final solution.
Always remember that Sanborn was surprised that it was not solved yet. This is probably why we have been failing, because we try to many strange and odd things. Its probably a psychological effect, but since he said K4 is the hardest, something might snap in our mind that makes us think first that we can solve it after so many people have failed, but in the back of our brain we have a feeling of failure. Maybe if we introduced the CT to someone who does not know about Kryptos, gave them the PT breaks, and asked them to try and solve, it would actually work.
The only simple thing that I can think of that would mess everything up is if Sanborn used some Russian letters that look english
1-A
2 -B
3-B-V
4 G
5-D
6-E-ye
7-E-yo
8-zh
9-Z
10 long e
11Y
12-K
13-L
14-M
15-N
16-O
17-Pi-P
18-P-R
19-C-S
20-T
21-Y-oo
22-F-phi
23-X
24-TZ
25-CH
26-Sh
There are a cpuple more but this should give you the idea!
oh oh!
Look at the last group of letters and change a few to Russian
CDIGK UHU AUEKCAR
CDICL UHU AUYLSAP
Childs play!
I hope this isn’t it!
thought sum of u wuld appreciate a little help on the advance
starting point that is knot that obvius to a cohrrent mind-
u see, evin if one saes somthin, it wont registar as its so far outte
ti not even turn ur stiles-b4 one hgets started, as my trig teacher said quite offten,
put the coffe pot on the floor. wtf?? look through the forest-WAY THROUGH THE FOREST!!
As I was saying, I am reading about Stone Henge and the book points out that Giza is at 51.12 and Stone henge is at 51.10 Berlin is at 52.30 and Kryptos is installed at 38.57. If you add say 51.10 and 38.57 it.s 90.07 degrees. maybe there is an astronomical sighting that goes along with it?
Sorry, I should have checked my atlas first. What the author was saying was there is a sight line from the “blue stone ” sight and Stone Henge that passes through Giza. Which has to do with the Lunation triangle created at Stone Henge. This might be a clue to what is seen (?) Stone Henge is at 51.1N and Berlin at 52.30N and Giza is 30.0N
Ohh.my….. thats just off the rails. Stone henge really?… how is that going to lead to anything? All we are left with now is set theory. How does the vigenere group with the plaintext or ciphertext OR how does the ciphertext group with the ciphertext. Thats it. Thats all there is. All the information you need to solve it is right there. Otherwise, sandborn would have gone and created stone henge for you.
doitagainagainagainagainjim35x412=14420
It’s a phoney code!
Here’s the” fecal failing solution” as my chemistry teacher used to say
lov ya dum
commi chumps
sems like a shame
Berlin
fiendish like it’s just
childs play
There are plain text words and hokey switcheroo Russian-english letters
WFLRV
(SH) VMPC
Some letters are filler material
It’s not a code I doubt Ed had the slightest input or any knowlegeable code maker.
With further refinement
lov(ya) you dunb
comi chumps
shor sems like a shame
Is Berlin
finished
just like childs play?
extra letters
HOO QQ BB F
PK TT SS
QQ
TF TT P B
UU X
SHOW ME THE CLOCK.
It’s not a clock but a reference to “A Clockwork Orange” look up nadsat the made up language in the book
The Russian version of the book has English slang spelled with Russian letters and the original English version has Russian words spelled in English ok “Droogs”?
I think I have a possible solution on excel can I send it to have it posted?
Yeah, KryptosFan takes emails.
I posted it anyway and got no feedback- oh well.
Has anyone tried clock gears like the Mayan calendar?
90×64
8×12 would be 1 rev of the minute hand or 60 min
48×40
10×16 would be 1 rev of the hour hand or 12 hours
since 97 is a prime number it messes that up
Where did you post it?
Also, the solution above does not meet criteria of M=C, Z=L, F=O, P=C, K=K.
I’m sending it in now One of the” layers” is removing some of the double letters including TT
Maybe try going east of all the northeast clocks
Maybe the Berlin spy tunnel (Operation Gold) is still classified and He might be talking about the tunnel. It is worth a try.
Here is the solution to K4: PUZZLES QUIZZES PROBLEM TANGRAM
The method for solving it is here: http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Solve-Sanborns-Kryptos-Part-10-Final-Part-1/
You are putting the horse before the cart in claiming the solution for K4. Have you had verification from Mr Sanborn?
You answer does not include the words “BERLIN” and “CLOCK”.
These are not clues to the how to work the solution but the actual words in the solution.
…cart before the horse, surely? Unless you’re going backwards.
Here is the solution to K4: EGGS BENEDICT FRANCE GOOSE CARBURETTOR BLOMP.
WTF?
This sounds right. Can you provide more context on the blomp?
A blomp is the sound you get when you drop a Twinkie, or other cake, into a whirlpool at the CIA, whilst wishing your 28 letter solution to a 97-ish letter problem is correct, and then posting it on the internet with the title “How to Solve Sanborn’s Kryptos”, without any confirmation from the man who made it.
K4 is a key. It is in fact, in the shape of a key. But it is not just a common key. It is a BERLIN key. (Look up the explanation). The doorway that it fits into is the original K2 matrix. Using David Stein’s original matrix, you’ll see a unique letter pattern in K2 that matches a letter pattern in K4. Matching up these patterns gives you the unlocked position.
CLOCK is Sanborn’s wordplay on C LOCK or SEE LOCK. Using the clue from K2 (WW), you can find another matching word pattern on K4 and K2 which will give you the LOCKed position. Sanborn is saying that this locked poisiton is the one you should be using. Then it is matter of using several clues found throughout various parts of Kryptos to find the message.
Maybe Sanborn got that from the song..
In a flood of T ears
That no one really ever heard fall at all
So it turns out that Kryptos is just Sanborn’s tribute to the CIA’s Phoenix Program.
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-To-Solve-Sanborns-Kryptos-The-Final-Piece-of-t/
It’s CLEPSYDRA
Hello, you will eventually be surprised that BERLIN “CLOCK” doesn’t say clock at all 🙂
Regarding your comment just below the image of the clock which reads: “Again, keep in mind that we were only to find the phrase “berlin clock” after decryption: attempting to use this particular clock to decipher K4 is not going to help.”
…unless there are multiple parts to K4 and the part containing BERLIN CLOCK is meant to be, or expected to be, deciphered first. Then, knowledge pertaining to the clock may be necessary in order to decipher the next, or remaining, parts.
Multiple parts, each enciphered with a different keyword and/or system, would explain how the English language would be masked from being revealed by attempts at frequency analysis on the entire 97 letters. Look at panel one containing K1 and K2 for example. Now that the extent of K1 and K2 are known, any cryptanalyst would know not to perform a frequency analysis on the two parts combined because the results would be meaningless.
This simple masking method is likely why attempts at frequency analysis on K4 have failed to produce anything usable.
I am not a cryptologist (much) but from what I have read about Kryptos, the K4 section plain text will say something like:
…found at the base of a Berlin Clock…
which will then link in with the whole plan to go looking for something in the grounds of Langley. And there’s a compass rose in the grounds of Langley and that big clock in Berlin.
Thinking backwards. The Samborn guy would have plotted the whole thing backwards.
So, as I am not a cryptologist but a pair of fresh eyes, maybe some of you guys and girls will play around with that phase and crack it. (I hope)
PS: Walter Womacka oversaw the Urania Clock in Alexanderplatz.
WW was also a sculpturist so maybe Samborn took inspiration from him?
This might only show some symmetry but here goes;
5, N+U=5
3 (N+Y) -U=R
2 P-U=E
6 U+R=N
4T-H=L
1 T+H=B
Berlin
1 M+U=H
H
3(M+Z) -R=U
2 F-R=L
5 P+U=K
4K-H=C
1W+H=C
CLUCK
A Berlin Clock is an URH so I only used those letters to get;
Berlin H Cluck ???
To explain this further I think it must be Berlin U cluck (?)
the symmetry between the 2 groups of six letters is strong
I added UUURHH to N(N+Y)PVTT and HRRUHH to M(M+Z) FPKW
The signs for both were +,-,-,+,-,+
the letter order was important
5,3,2,6,4,1 for Berlin and 1,3,2,5,4,1 for U and cluck
ie 53’26.41” and 13’25.41” which is near Berlin!
and again the letters UHR spells clock in German
This doesn’t solve the rest of K-4 but I think Urania clock might be right
Im lost. I get the symmetry, using TWT as the middle, right? But those co-ordinates just point to farmland not actually that close to berlin. But the compass points to those coordinates pretty closely (its hard to tell with that kind of distance). But what kind of cipher does this indicate? It can’t be rotational like k3 (the letter frequencies dont meet). So Quagmire III? Maybe the plaintext of k4 is in German? Letter frequencies actually really close…
I think it is two segments of six letters unfortunately, i also think it’s just a local phenomenon, in other words the solution for the whole thing is different.and if it’s farmland maybe the mispelling of clock as cluck is right (?) I haven’t been able to see the Urania clock either that must be some kind of help (unless there is another clock that starts with U
Well, in german all clocks start with ‘U’. The german word for clock is “Uhr”, (Which is not the passphrase for a QIII(I checked using kryptos as the alphabet key)). The numbers pointing to co-ordinates in Germany is a coincidence, and im sure must be a part of K5. I think that using TWT as the center, and using the numbers indicated by the letter pairs down to UHU and up to OXO, that gives either six or nine numbers. I think the doubled and palindromes are the key. It would be simple, having the key formatted within the cipher.
But, the TT pair is supposed to be part of the ‘BERLIN’ ciphertext. maybe the “second layer X” from K2 is directing us to this? the pairs are the key and the plaintext? explains why nothing matches.
After all, K2 is universal shorthand for “key to”
I think that we should not ignore the potential that k4 is in German adding a third level
Some people think Dan Brown helped Jim. On his book cover he put the “wrong ” degrees for Kryptos 37 instead of 38. which would correspond to 53 instead of the correct 52 for Berlin. This would explain that. PS there was a Math guy who posted using knot theory, that the palindromes and double letters were added in.
Dan Brown has nothing to do with this. Da Vinci Code came out several years after Kryptos. and Brown has never had interaction with CIA. Absolutely impossible
And what math guy?
maybe that was right what I had Berlin had UHR , so what would Washington DC have? SEX apparently
A+X=W
T+S=A
J+E=O
K+X=I
L-X=N
U+X=S
(D+I)-E=H
A+S=T
W-S=D
I+E=N
N+S=G
(F+B)-E=C
These are the letters preceding Berlin and seem to get “Washington DC”
I’m seeing a real problem here tho
Clock was the clue to decifer nypvtt, but if I’m right it should be nzpvtt-my ?
There were 4 SEX’s to get Washington DC and there should be 2 UHR’s to bet Berlin(?)
and the following letters don’t say clock MZFPKW
For MZFPKWG I got Moskva using the nick name “OZ”
M+Z=M
Z+O=O
F+Z=V (in Russian F=V)
P=O=A
K+Z=K
(W+G) +O=S
Moskva or Moscow
What’s in Moscow?!?
I can’t wait till the book comes out I want to find out who double crossed who it should be a best seller
How much money would someone pay to Get real clues to help solve kryptos?
I’ll pay you a million trillion billion dollars on the day that I own that much money and not a day before.
If anyone wants to send any free information that leads to actual plaintext in the meantime, I’m all ears.
QluQuest@juno.com
Berlin Clock has 11 letters just like Weltzeituhr. – JAFO
I tried for a few hours and I doubt I’ll bother again since I’m lazy, but I feel like I’m onto something. I might be wrong considering I’m half asleep, but when he meant “look at other clocks” he meant plug in time from a normal clock then plug in set theory. Here’s an example with the first letter
O: (B + 4 hours = 6 which is O)
Next letter + time = letter
When everything is plugged in, it should read abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz a few times with it cutting off a few short at the end. Maybe if you plug set theory in and look at the overlaps that’ll give the answer, but I dunno. I’ve never looked at ciphers before or tried to decrypt one, let alone one from the CIA lul.
Oops sorry I made a mistake on the first one, I told you I’m half asleep. Here’s a better idea of what I mean
2 B: (K + 2 hours = 13 which is B)
3 K: (R + 3 hours = 21 which is W)
4 R: (U + 4 hours = 25 which is V)
5 U: (O + 1 hour = 16 which is L)
6 O: (X + 2 hour = 26 which is Q)
7 X: (O + 3 hour = 18 which is F)
8 O: (G + 4 hour = 11 which is U)
9 G: (H + 5 hour = 13 which is B)
The point is that after you plug in all of them for time, it should repeat the alphabet but stop at T for the 97th letter. I’m sure there’s some type of meaning here but I’m too lazy again best of luck
Hiel Himble ” Kommie Aus Das Shibe Und Ein bier Swi Das Toileten Ist Gut Ja ” Mina Neu Dam Tish Ist Das Dustch Ich Dri Swi Older Ich Kommie Aus FL Ich Hast Lernen fier Years ”’ Ja
Bitta… Das Toletin Pappiar Dunka Du ” (ahh) glook Ist Peanute butter ”
He means Time… Time opens doors, reveals secrets… and so on, but also the clock can be used in some ways to decode the K4 also morse code if you look under another angle to the thing.
Is that a pool of water under the 4th section? Wouldn’t that create a reflection? Maybe the location coordinates apply to a viewing position and time of day, and only the parts outside of the shadow it casts on itself are used?
If you break it into small Morse code bits you can get it, but you have to share adjoining letters.
FBNYPVTTMZFPK
for example B is dash, dot dot dot so that could be NI or the same.
IN-NI-TA-ETM-ETN-IA-T-T=TT-MI-IN-AN-TA
TM-TNT-NI-IN-AI-EE-TA-TTI-TM-IN-AN-TA
TTI=N-N=C
O-Q-B-ER-L-I-N-C-L-O-C-K
Sorry, that TA should of been TE.
I just realized that you can reduce all the letters to T-I-M-E-A-N Mean Time?
If dot is a zero and dash is a 1 then T=1, E=0, M=11, I=00, N-10 and A=01.
further XOR TIME= EMIT ?
Iqlusion. Q XOR =L backwards? Makes some sense.
My other idea is not as good but I’ll post it.
“from T is your position”
E.A Poe’s poem “The Raven”
This is a book code, where you just replace the letters from a book with the code.
“tapping at my chamber do-
or only this and nothing
more ah, distinctly i rem-
ember it was in the bleak
of December and each..97
Notice that the “U’s” of the code match up with the poem letters” Byrlin” Russian spelling?
To get the 97 letters there are two pairs which I will leave.
I, Two T(P+G)(N-I)nty degrees
East North East
Admire from bench ( A-D, D-B, B-E, A-A)in hymn
Berlin Clock!
Oh man, to hear it chime daily!
The compass in the sculpture is set to 220 degrees. The face of the set theory clock in Berlin has the tower for the Kaiser Wilhelm Memorial in the background? 220 degrees to the Hollow Tooth” remains of the original tower?
I goofed and forgot a “PM” after 220 degrees. I’m not sure if that would make sense for usage, maybe someone has a better idea!
I’m guessing the Hymn is Beethoven’s Hymn to Joy.
It should be in the key of G Major.
B-B-C-D-D-C-B-A
But in this key you couldn’t have “clock” also?
I think I found something!
Ok, use that same part of Poe’s Raven but keep them in order.
K-4—Poe
A, BTRAC
B, HDOB
C, DA
D, YLE
E,AD,
F, RRMN
G, TABE
H, ME
I, EIMC
J, MNF
K ,NCHHEME
L, CBOT
M, S
N, SEE
O, TNAM (Antie M?)
P, KHIT
Q, YTONO
R, PNIH
S, ADNGRE (danger?)
T, TIIWAO
U, IYLBRN (Berlin?)
V, LT
W, OHSEE
X, GK
Y, R
Z, DIIA
Then string them together? N, See X, KG A, B Trac P, K Hit H, Me K, n he(n)ch ? etc?
Once again, the letters are from Poe’s poem Raven starting after T’is a visitor I muttered;
“Tapping at my chamber door” etc for 97 letters.
Here’s my solution;
K-4 Poe
W, Oh see
X, KG
A, B trac
P, k hit
L, Botc
B, h bod
D, y le
E, ad
I, MI(e=5) C
Z, IA ID
V, Lt
J, MNF
H, me
S, danger
Y, R
C, ad
T, io wait
G, be at
U, Byrlin
M, ‘s
F, MNRR (MeNgenlehReuhR)
N, see
O, Ant M
K, hench me
R, n hip
Q, no toy
Sorry, I got dyselxic delete the “B” in k-4 “A” and put it in K-4 “B” and delete “K” in k-4 “P” and put it in K-4 “K” That might change the story line but I think it is still the solution.
Have you thought on what berlins clocks really name translated into some word related to king tut?
The $50 is tacky. Dan Coomer claims he has solved k4 and k5 on his site kryptossolved.com, but he is unwilling to cough up the fee, even though he has confirmed his solutions.